On the road! I am excited now because the characters have taken off on a journey. I say “a” journey because, obviously, this is not THE Journey, but it’s a journey. It’s simple enough, but it took me a while to realize that all stories start with a false journey that lead to the real journey, and setting off on the false journey only means the real one is that much closer. Also, a fun fact about today’s page: panel one’s scenery was drawn using real ink and brush. It’s my first real non-digital ink work in a comic in 6 years. It’s a little rough, but it was fun getting back to the bristol board and the black ink. There will be more of these as this part of the story goes on, and I think they get better.
I was at Long Beach Comic Con last weekend and these guys from the KB Life came and gave me my first video interview about Bearmageddon. Here I am in all my awkward on screen glory (comic artists. much like screen writers, were never intended to be put in front of a camera):
Also, a review of the comic was posted at Tired of Superheroes. I appreciate the review, it is very kind and the only issue I took with it was nothing personal, only that the writer says this one line: “The title alone makes it clear that some of Malachai’s humor has rubbed off on Ethan…”. I know the guy obviously doesn’t know that I created Bearmageddon pre-Axe Cop and Malachai’s influence was not a big part of my comics at the time. It just feeds the fear I have that, because my big hit comic that launched my “career” is linked to my little brother, any time I do something good or bad from here on out, Malachai will be invoked in some way… if I write something lame I’ll be called the guy who is nothing without that kid, and if I write something good it becomes somehow traceable back to the real genius behind the curtain, my little brother. And the latter is in some ways true, though not of Bearmageddon. Working with Malachai on Axe Cop has had a huge impact on me for sure, and I will never deny that. It’s helped me to see comics like a kid. I know that, just as Vern Troyer will forever be known as “mini-me”, I will forever be known as the guy who makes comics with kids. It’s mostly a blessing, but its inevitably a thing that will come up from here on out. In the end, what’s most important is that this story entertains and does its job, not who gets credit for what.
With that, how about a Q&A? This question comes from George:
I’m an aspiring writer. I’m hoping to become multifaceted and work in as many different mediums as I can manage, but I don’t want to do so without actually really understanding a medium first. I love comics, I read both web and print comics in both graphic novel format and strip format, but something I’ve always wondered is how a script for a comic should be done. If I was writing a script for a comic what might be a good way to go about it, and what should I include especially to help an artist who would be drawing things based off my scripts.
There isn’t one easy answer to this. It really comes down to how specific you are about what you want, and how your artist likes to work. Your typical comic book script tells the artist what to draw in each panel. If you want examples, check out the Comic Book Script Archive. Just look at a few and check out what they did. I personally prefer to draw my comic from a screenplay. I was introduced to working in this format by Doug TenNapel, because all of his graphic novels are just movies he hopes to see on the big screen some day. The screenplay opens the artist up to more freedom, to interpret the action how they want to and to layout panels how they want to. I am not a fan of being told how many panels I have to put on a page by a writer who has never designed or laid out a page in their life. The obvious compromise is to write a traditional comic script and just make a note to the artist that they can be flexible with the panel and page layouts. Another way to go about it would be to write a screenplay (which is great to have around anyway if Hollywood ever becomes interested in your work) and just make notes to the artist when you have a specific vision for the comic. For instance, you may want a splash page at a certain point, so just note that to them.
The main thing is just to see how well your artist is at visual storytelling. Try to get them to show you a few pages they drew, and to send the script/source material they worked off of. A good artist and storyteller (they must be both) doesn’t need to be given a detailed road map. They will work well with freedom. But not a lot of artists are great storytellers. I have seen scripts where the writer even penciled out thumbnails of all the pages for the artist. Like I said, it really comes down to how specific you are, and how much you trust the artist.
Definitely get your artist to show you thumbnails or some sort of rough draft before they get to finished pencils or inks. Avoid making them change things at those later stages because they will hate you.
Also, I know a lot of comic creators leave action sequences more wide open to artists. I’ve heard of some who, at a fight scene just write “page 12: fight scene” and let the artist at it.
Your artist may want detailed instruction. You just have to figure out what works best for them. I have only drawn a handful of comics from other people’s scripts, and I would break script all the time, because I tend to see things a certain way when I read something and I can’t do anything but that vision in my head. I have never had a writer unhappy with the changes I made… most often I would use more panels to convey an action sequence than they had given me. Action takes a lot of space and writers usually aren’t real aware of that.
Sorry that answer wasn’t incredibly specific, but I don’t think there is a specific answer. I do think you could get a better answer from guys who work for Marvel and DC, who draw from scripts all day long. Next time you are a convention just ask 4 or 5 of them how they prefer their script, then ask a few writers. In general though, comic scripts are the way they are for a reason, because the industry has been doing this for a while and they found what works best. So if you want to get started, start there and you can deviate as you get the hang of things.
Thanks for reading! See you all on Friday.
Ethan
Discussion (34) ¬
You’ve almost certainly answered this before, but how long do you expect this comic to run?
I think I answer it in that video right up there in the blog haha. My guess is a year and a half to maybe even two years or more. Approximately 200-250 pages at two per week.
First off, I love that Gogs sleeps with his goggles on.
You’re no Vern Troyer, man. I’ve read ChumbleSpuzz and I know that you already had writing talent before Axe Cop ever started. It was you that assembled the bits of your brother’s imagination and breathed them to life. Axe Cop would be lost forever in Malachai’s imagination if it weren’t for you. At least until he moved on to play Batman or army or whatever.
Thanks. I wasn’t trying to fish but I appreciate it.
Oh no! The Hippie Van has a self-destruct button!
I haven’t commented on anything yet, although I have been enjoying Bearmageddon very much.
I just wanted to say how much I like the commentary with each post and especially the Q&As as of late. I’m neither a writer nor artist and don’t aspire to be either, so I’ve never put much thought into how comics get made. It’s a fascinating insight into a world I knew little about.
Glad you like it! I assumed these blogs were boring for anyone who wasn’t into comics creation.
I agree entirely – the Q&As and comments add a lot. The blog on your brothers added a lot of emotion to an already very strong page, for example.
I also enjoy the comics more for knowing that the creator cares about his readership.
I love that this comic is 4/20 friendly. You’re characters are totally relatable, and that’s coming from a 22 year old slacker/stoner.
Amen.
Haha. I’m trying to channel my old stoner friends because I totally am not one.
Methinks Nigel hasn’t been entirely forthcoming about his plans for this excursion…
🙂
Burton must have sneakily climbed over the seat between panels 3 and 5. He also moved Gogs to the back.
Sneaky stoner…
Burton did climb over the seat, but I tried to make Gogs look in proportion with the middle seat because he wasn’t moved to the back. Burton is just all the way up front, while Gogs is leaned back. Chalk it up to extreme perspective?
Heh, the last panel would be amusing by itself with no context. “Adventure van safety lesson” indeed.
Adventure Van Lesson on Inappropriate Touching
The Q&A today was great! I’m writing a comic right now, and I had been wondering about the correct way to script it. Luckily the artist is a friend of mine, so essentially I’m writing it out as a screenplay, and once that’s done we’ll get together and figure it out panel-by-panel, then he’ll do the art. This system works better for me, since I have less experience with comics than he does, and I tend to imagine things happening in motion as opposed to in panels. Anyway, thank you for reaffirming that I’m not doing it wrong!
I’m thinking that is the gas tank, in which case the fire might not be a great idea. lol
also, Ethan, I was wondering if you ever read any sorts of Manga?
Just curious. I’m not seeing a manga influence or anything, I’m kinda just asking to ask. lol
That would be a secondary gas tank, common in older vehicles, particularly before there was a gauge that told you how much fuel you had. When you ran out of gas, you flipped the switch to get a little bit more so you could make it to a gas station. Of course, a lot of people forgot to flip the switch back after refueling, so it kinda defeated the purpose as they would run out of gas and find out that the second tank was already empty.
You know I wasn’t positive that was actually a gas tank, thanks for confirming it. I was going to pretend it was jimmy rigged to be a gas tank regardless, but now that I know it actually is I don’t have to. I know nothing about cars.
The only comics I read that could be considered Manga is Lone Wolf and Cub. I have a lot of respect for the work in books like Akira, but in general have not delved into much Manga.
You’re, ah, channeling The Dude on this… PAGE, uh, man.
The last panel looks as if Nigel is awkwardly touching Joel’s crotch. XD
Hence the “DUDE!”
exactly
I like the comic so far!
Is the ad buissness doing any better this week?
-Benjamin
Thanks! They are doing better today for sure. It has been a slow week though. We are getting real close to the bears. I think the comic is going to be a lot more shareable when it reaches that point. I commend all of you who have been here through the set up.
Uhh, the foreshadowing button!
Also, Burton’s probably gonna quit that. You know, since you need to be at top condition for running/fighting freaking mutant bears and all.
First of all I wanted to congratulate you on both Axe Cop and Bearmageddon I’m enjoying both comics whenever I’m online,I love your artwork I’m really digging your style.
As for the many that say that without Malachai you’re nothing,just simply shrug that shit off,the comics you do or anything at all is all but a passion project,you do this because you love it,sure you’d make some decent money with the sales of the printed stuff you do and the paypal donations and royalties of the character (If I am wrong in anyway feel free to correct me) and also if there’s anything that you’re guilty of is being a kind man and a very loving older brother to your kid brother who has a wonderful imagination.Keep up the good work,man Thank you for being so unique,open and very grateful to everyone for supporting,I thank you,the people reading thank you,the world thanks you for keeping the artform alive and for inspiring me in a way to get back to draw again,I’m not and never clamed to be the greatest artist in the world but I try my best and maybe I might even do a webcomic of my own someday and you’ll be mentioned in the list of the people I thank for making it happen 🙂
Peace and Keep On Rockin’
My best to you and Malachai
Watched the interview. Spoilers!!!11. Although I guess they’re not much of a spoiler if you’re just tossing them out there.
Hey man, I just wanna say that Bearmageddon is rapidly becoming my new favorite thing. I’m starting to really legitimately relate to these characters and care about them as people, and usually people who tell stories about things like bearmageddons don’t take the time to craft their stories that way. So thanks, and I’m really excited about the prospect of watching these awesome relatable people fight mutant bears. I think it’s going to wind up being some of the sickest shit ever. (I can cuss on this one, right?)
Hi Ethan, just wanted to say I’m loving Bearmageddon and will have to check out Axe Cop. Your blogging alongside the comic is inspiring and insightful. I’m a member of the Comics Experience workshop group developing scripts and stuff. Seeing we comics like this online is awesome.
God bless,
Luke
P.s as I’ve now caught up on the series, it’d gonna be painful to wait for each comic page – but worth it!